berkeley, hardly a basstive pro-gun rights thought, it showed it had no impact at all on lowering homicide rates. in fact, it had no impact at all on lowering mass murders. in fact, it had no impact at all in the number of bullets that a victim was shot with. so the truth is we already know it doesn't work. but when we tried it last time, what happened? we had a ten-year supply of alt weapons sold in one year before the ban could go into effect and when it was enacted and became effective. bottom line is we're going to see that again this time, too. as every down and you know it's coming down. i'm going to go along with that. hand guns i say north texas absolutely not. i mean, we need -- we the people doingneed the ability to protect ourselves. an ak 15, i'm not sure we need that. >> well, it's an ak 47 and ar 15, it's easy to confuse. >> i'm sorry. >> i want to get you right on that. we saw -- i like to point out on national television, we saw film footage of korean merchants using these types of firearms on top of their roof tops during the l.a. riots so player place of businesses weren'